Monday, March 14, 2011

Descartes

Is Descartes right?  Are we just thinking things?  Or is there more to us?  Explain.

6 comments:

  1. ---This may be off the wall but after class I started thinking about how the man's "personality" changed compared to the man in the diving bell and how his personality did not change but he was not able to physically do what he wanted to do.
    So, here is my thought. This is a huge WHAT IF, the man who changed from a nice hard working man really did not change on the inside. WHAT IF he just could not portray what he wanted to. As in, his thought process was the same, but he could not control his actions persay.
    Such as "Liar Liar", he wanted to lie, but he could not. And such as people with tourette syndrome, they do not mean to have outbursts, but they do.
    We have NO idea what was actually going on in this man's head, so.....
    Just saying...

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  2. Stacey- I agree 100% with you. I never thought about it that way. Certain things can happen to people in which they cannot help or they develop some kind of disease (ex. from what Stacey said - tourette syndrome)in which they have sudden outbursts that they have no control over.
    What creeps me out is thinking that everything could be a dream in our lives. I could be dreaming while I'm writing this...
    I'm not saying that I believe that everything could be a dream but I do wonder that sometimes I could be in a world like the movie "The Truman Show". That is even weirder to think about but that is just how I feel.

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  3. I think Descartes was a nut. We may be dreaming, but even if we are, we feel like it's real. If I found out today for sure that I was in the matrix, and none of this was real, but that I had ABSOLUTELY no way of getting out of it, I'd just continue living the exact same way I have been. What else can you do besides go insane?
    Descartes entire argument for why life is real is that God is real, which he based off the fact that he's a being which we imagine to be supremely perfect, and because we can conceive of a supremely perfect being and supremely perfect beings that don't exist are not perfect, then God must exist. This is ludicrus. I can imagine a supremely perfect ice cream sundae right now....but if it was supremely perfect it would be right in front of me and I'd be eating it. But its not here, and it doesn't exist. Just because we can imagine something doesn't make it real. Maybe it is real in our imagination, but that doesn't give it power to influence what happens in the world around us. It may influence our actions, and our actions may influence our surroundings, but the thing itself which we imagine does not directly influence the world.
    I do think that Descartes was infallible with his "I think, therefore I am" argument though. I just think its funny how we go out of our way, bending over backwards with our brain to come up with some possible explination for why our "thinking thing" has to be different than our brain. Why shouldn't it be our brain? Thats the simplest answer, and it can actually be proven to some extent.

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  5. I agree with Ashley's first line--I think Decarte was nuts!!

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  6. Hello All,

    I agree with all of you.

    I believe without our brain we can't think. Our brain is made up of millions of components which tell us how to think. If they become damaged then we will no longer think the same. Such as someone who has a stroke, and it effects part of the brain. Which then effects who that person was to who they become in their future.

    We live in the here and now. We gain experiences as we go through this life. This only develops our thinking even more. Like we know more today than we did 10 years ago, and we will know more 10 years from now. We are constantly evolving within ourselves. But this can be changed at any moment if our brains are to become damaged.

    We don't know what or why we are here, but that doesn't change us from being here. Pending on one's faith will give each person their own reason to answer these questions. The truth remains no one will ever know who was right until death falls upon them. Which still gives no answers to the living. This to me is the beauty of a theory, it can only be speculated and hypothesized without ever having any proof to back any of the claims - at this point.

    Theories make you think, contemplated, and work your brain like a puzzle without ever being able to see the outcome in the here and now. I will say all of these philosophers make me want to part of their world.

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